Monday, December 30, 2013

Lost & Dying Sheep

Lately I have been visiting a church with my friend (we'll call her "Mary").  Mary is someone who vowed 2013 would be the last time she ever stepped foot in the cult, AKA ntcc.  Her husband still goes (though it appears there is hope not much longer). "Mary" wanted to find a new church she could be happy at and feel at home at.  I told her I'd be happy to go with her and so I have.  She went to a few and she wasn't sure, but finally, she found one that she thinks she will like.  I told her I'd go with her for a little while (as I already have a church home) until she felt comfortable enough to go on her own, after establishing a repor and some friendships. 

As "Mary" and I spend time talking, I'm reminded of several people I once knew. She's shared with me how miserable they are. So many are nearly homeless, are jobless, have to go to food banks for food and just plain depressed.  It is so heart breaking to know there are so many. Person after person she reminds me of names of people I know and tells me of there despair. Where is ntcc? Why don't they care?!  I have another friend I'll be emailing back this week who has shared with me their story and I'm not at all shocked! These stories aren't mine to tell but they are heart breaking! My point is this:  #1 SO many are still sitting there with this cult lost, hurt, destroyed, frustrated, broken, poor, homeless, unloved, un-nurtured, beat down, and the list goes on and on and on with these conditions.  And #2 this isn't what Christ came to the flesh for. This isn't what God intended for his people to endure!

I want to share part of John 10 - I'm going to post both KJV and The Message. I love comparing other versions because they break it down. I still go by KJV BUT if I'm stuck or need a little further meaning, other versions can help so please see The Message below the KJV below:

John 10:1-18 KJV:
 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.
Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

John 10:1-18 "The Message":
10 1-5 “Let me set this before you as plainly as I can. If a person climbs over or through the fence of a sheep pen instead of going through the gate, you know he’s up to no good—a sheep rustler! The shepherd walks right up to the gate. The gatekeeper opens the gate to him and the sheep recognize his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he gets them all out, he leads them and they follow because they are familiar with his voice. They won’t follow a stranger’s voice but will scatter because they aren’t used to the sound of it.”
6-10 Jesus told this simple story, but they had no idea what he was talking about. So he tried again. “I’ll be explicit, then. I am the Gate for the sheep. All those others are up to no good—sheep stealers, every one of them. But the sheep didn’t listen to them. I am the Gate. Anyone who goes through me will be cared for—will freely go in and out, and find pasture. A thief is only there to steal and kill and destroy. I came so they can have real and eternal life, more and better life than they ever dreamed of.
11-13 “I am the Good Shepherd. The Good Shepherd puts the sheep before himself, sacrifices himself if necessary. A hired man is not a real shepherd. The sheep mean nothing to him. He sees a wolf come and runs for it, leaving the sheep to be ravaged and scattered by the wolf. He’s only in it for the money. The sheep don’t matter to him.
14-18 “I am the Good Shepherd. I know my own sheep and my own sheep know me. In the same way, the Father knows me and I know the Father. I put the sheep before myself, sacrificing myself if necessary. You need to know that I have other sheep in addition to those in this pen. I need to gather and bring them, too. They’ll also recognize my voice. Then it will be one flock, one Shepherd. This is why the Father loves me: because I freely lay down my life. And so I am free to take it up again. No one takes it from me. I lay it down of my own free will. I have the right to lay it down; I also have the right to take it up again. I received this authority personally from my Father.”

NTCC knows this. They get you used to their voice so you will follow them. They condition you to hear their voice. They come dressed as a shepherd but are really a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Jesus said that He came that they might have life and that more abundantly. What an amazing and loving God!  But can ntcc say that? NO they can't! The only ones that have life and that more abundantly are those in the high ranks in the borg. The sad part is though there abundant life is only here on earth.  Davis, Kekel, and such are living high off the hog, padded wallets, etc. I'm begging if you are still in this cult and something has hit a nerve with you today PLEASE know there is TRUE Christian life outside of this place! The life is being sucked out of you. It isn't by some chance you are here reading this! The anger you feel from me writing this, from me calling that place a cult is from the conditioning THEY have put in your heart, NOT an anger from God! I can't tell you how much better my CHRISTIAN walk is since I left! I have a REAL relationship with God. I'm not confused and struggling and beat down any more! I am focused on a real relationship with Christ and what He wants for me. He wants to love you! He wants to see you prosper. He wants to see you happy! You deserve it!  Jesus said 'come to me all you who are weary and heavy laden and I will give you rest'.  Come, trust God, restore your heart, restore your mental health, and restore your salvation with a true spark of a loving savior who wants to Give to YOU and not YOU give all to a cult.

You can always email me at mommakat01@yahoo.com - I will always keep everything confidential or you can text me anonymously at 253-389-5517 or call. I'm here to listen. I'm here to help.



Friday, November 8, 2013

Healing. . . . mentally, spiritually AND physically . . . .

For those of you that knew me, you knew I am no small person. You have likely seen me "Grow" literally thru the ntcc years. I wouldn't say I was a huge eater often but I was a wrong eater - eating the wrong things because it was cheap and I didn't have money (something you never hear in ntcc right??!! Yeah wrong!). I ate at all the wrong times because we didn't have time to be normal. I already have the DNA of fat folk and I'm Italian - hello! 

Now that I am gone and free, I am spiritually, and mentally better and God has given me strength to become physically better as well. To date, I'm currently down 85 lbs (in the past 4 1/2 months) and my son is down over 65 for over 150# comine weight loss!

Here's my progress (so far):

Sunday, October 27, 2013

I DO! . . . . . promise to break any rule I want!!

Well, well, well, congratulations is in order for the Kekel's - seeing how they recently renewed their wedding vows. Oh but wait, no need to stop just there. How many of you got married in an ntcc cult chapel and were told nothing fancy? How many of you ladies had to wear something simple, no fancy decorations, well no decorations period? How many of you had no big reception, or no reception either? How many men just wore their "Sunday suit & tie" to tie that not?

I believe you all raised your hands.  Then please someone tell me WHY the kekel's had a HUGE whoopty doodles to renew their vows? Yes, the big fancy, extravagant dress; the fancy dresses for the flower girls. OH and did I mention the trains on the dresses? How about the decorations?  How about the decorations in the fellowship hall? The crystals and glitz and glamour of it all. Nice wedding cake too! WOW

So these folks never cease to amaze me! And those that were there watching all this, what did you think? I bet you wanted to question how they can but you cant and didn't have the ability to do so because deep inside you there is fear and the brainwashed idea of you can't speak up. WELL follow your gut. If you thought it, you were probably right!  I don't write this blog in hate. I write it in love to say it's just not right!  I wouldn't give into my curiosity because of the brainwashing but thank GOD that I finally listened to Him. You  have 2 voices in you. The one that is God telling you this isn't right has been beaten down by the brainwashing voice you hear saying it's not of god to question. Well God says it is. Need scripture to prove it? Message me and we can go there.

Another thing that is bothering me that just happened yesterday; I was gone all day. Knock, knock, knock - guess who? It was them cult folks out there Soul winning". My son said yeah my mom used to go there and they went on and on and on. They told my son, 'do you remember Sister Eaton's son, Christian?' and my son said yes. They went on to say, 'well his mom stopped coming too but he still comes without her. he doesn't have to and you can too.' Ok I MUST share, since they are using this young man for an example YET it wasn't too many years ago as a young teen, he was investigated for molesting children of an ex ntcc member. The church dismissed it b/c she left and she "Had a truckers mouth". WHAT!!!! What does a truckers mouth have to do with a serious allegation such as this?  Yes, it ended up not going very far with the police and I will tell you why . . . . . THEY - ntcc gave credibility for this boy b/c he and his mom attended church. ***Now I am not going to say he did or didn't do it BUT children don't usually know how to say sexual things happened to them just from imagination. It came from somewhere and her children said he did. I do know for an absolute fact that he used to babysit for the mother of the small children. She never allowed it after that. This all comes directly as I recall it b/c I was friends with both mothers at the time.

It's a sad place I'm telling you to twist the rules to work for the kekels and to protect the alleged of such things and they ALWAYS do it. Yes, no church, no place is perfect and each has there share of people as such but why folks do you follow this kind of  'church'/cult? If you have that deep intuitional instinct of run, you should! If you have that instinct of ask, you can but they're just going to treat you like the devil if you do - so I'd plan on leaving after asking, or better yet, just leave and find that God really isn't a slave master. He's a love master and he wants to love and bless you!

Wednesday, October 9, 2013

Sports Talk . . . . .

I have an employee who always wanted to do a sports blog. He's been like a son to me and I try to mentor him as sort of a spiritual mom. I encouraged him to start a blog and he did. I'm going to post a link on my blog. Feel free to check it out and he gives permission to anyone else who wants to share the link. He would LOVE any comments and interaction (even if you don't agree with his comments - PS - Matt, if you check this out, He's a Seahawks fan and a Chargers fan too yucky! - he went way wrong there with the Chargers!!! lol)

<3 MommaKat - GOOOOOOOOO NINERS!!!


***NEW LINK:
http://rikroksportstalk.blogspot.com/

Monday, September 16, 2013

NTCC Games; sneak n peak

Ok, I know this is silly, BUT I was curious what would be said and though I expected to hear something along these lines, I still didn't expect to hear this:

So there is someone I knew who is still in the cult, that is still in denial that it's a cult, that unfriended me from FB. And really, I am ok with it. I was however, curious why this person would try to friend my boys after unfriending me. I thought does this person want to save my boys from the vortex black whole of apostate they think I am? Seriously?  I couldn't resist asking a question to this person to see if that was what they thought.

Keep in mind - what I asked seems silly, BUT I know this person well enough to know a simple question wouldn't get answered by her. I knew I'd have to ask a off the collar, thought provoking question to get an answer. So, I sent a message to this person and said, ' What are the top 3 things you dislike about me the most'? (I expected something about me leaving).  I knew that IF they responded, they'd give a circled song and dance. I wasn't looking for something to post. I wasn't looking to mend the past. I was just curious what the mind set was. My boys can care less about this person anyway. They don't play the ntcc hunger games! 

The response came, indicating they are trying to follow God and not those things that would keep them from their goal. Yeah, ok, whatever, because I'm such an apostate now that I don't attend that cult. But then she said: "I have no bitterness or hatred toward no man, I cleared that out of my heart. Neither have I wrote a blog to speak no evil towards no man."

OMG folks, I almost fell out of my chair when I saw that. Seriously. SO I have ONE question. Why mention anything with a blog? PLEASE don't tell me you or any other member of that cult would be a hypocrite - they aren't sneaking a peek are they? Are you? You better go put more money in the offering basket and pray your sins are forgiven for doing such a terrible act!  Don't worry, I won't tell on you though . . . . . b/c you "Weren't reading this anyway".

Ok, I'm sarcastic but COME ON. I am sick and tired of the way this cult teaches them to be hypocrites. I LOVE what I saw D n A say - with REAL Christians, what you see is what you get. AMEN and AMEN. 

And why did she have to clear their heart of bitterness? I cleared my heart of bitterness since I left that cult. Guess what - I no longer have bitterness. If you have bitterness it's called what you see is what you get!

Ok I have a set of scriptures - I was only going to reference vs. 36-40 below BUT a lot of this reminds me of them cult folk:

Matthew 22: 21-29 & 36-40


They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
22 When they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.
23 The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him,
24 Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
25 Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother:
26 Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh.
27 And last of all the woman died also.
28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
……… 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

 Just like the cult they marvel at words they should receive but don't want to hear/believe.  Then just like the Sadducees, they marry, remarry, and remarry. I think they just can't wait for the next death or divorce to get the recycled bride. Seriously SMH!  THANK GOD there is no marriage in heaven. If any of the cult makes it to heaven, can you imgaine the fights, no she's my wife - well I married her first??!!

The best part here is vs. 36-40. The only commandments herein we must live by, Post JESUS is to love the Lord with all your heart and love your neighbor. If you love God, you'll want to love your neighbor and love them to Him. You won't want to force them or hate them if they don't follow your cult or if they leave your cult. I don't really care if they hate me. I don't want anyone thinking they need to save my boys from me b/c I don't attend or follow the cult ways anymore either! Yes, I have a new hair do, jewelery, and even makeup. AND I'm not going to hell either. I love God and have more peace in my life now than I ever did! My youngest son, who I thought would be the hardest for me to connect with is being inspired by the changes in my life. THANK YOU JESUS! I couldn't have said that before while I attended this cult.

Don't judge us folks b/c we don't attend your cult any more and I won't judge you for still being there, or for sneaking a peek at our blogs. God loves you. All He wants is your fellowship and love. He doesn't want you to live a ritualistic, legalistic life. You don't have to go the martyrs way. Go God's way!




Friday, September 13, 2013

Publically forbidden; privately approved!

One day (time frame irrelevant) I met with a dear friend of mine, also an Xer. She has children who happen to still attend NTCC after she left. One of her children was engaged to be married. The fiancé to this party had been previously married. The ex-spouse abandoned and left the relationship and children. This single parent has been raising the children. My friends’ child would happily marry and become a part of their life and begin a new family.

As plans were being made, clothing purchased for the big event, etc. Mr. Sneak & Don’t tell Kinson told this young couple, ‘well I don’t know if you two would be living in sin because this one was married before; so we can’t marry you two in the chapel, BUT I’ll marry you in my office.’ WHAT – WHAT?? Really??? IF, IF they were indeed doing something against God, IF they were indeed going to be married in sin, HOW, PLEASE tell me HOW would marrying them in the secretive walls of your office will make it right? Please – I’d love to know how.  Would you have acted like you didn’t do it and let the people judge as they will? Because you and your people DO judge.

That’s one of the biggest problems YOU ALL JUDGE. I have one tip, one word of advice. It is in verse 5 below:

Matthew 7:1-5:
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

HYPOCRITE get the hypocrisy out of your own life FIRST then you will see God is a God of grace, love, and mercy. WHO are you to judge? NTCC’er – WHY do you judge? If you’re still in and judging others – you’re no more saved than your borg leaders. You all talk about those of us who left and got true salvation, but why don’t you ask your leaders why doing something like this is okay? I’d love to know why myself. You won’t get an answer.

I don’t judge them for being married. It’s not my job to do. In fact, I pray that God will bless them and that they grow in His grace, love, and mercy. I pray they will find true peace and happiness and never again return to NTCC. I’m happy for them they married AND they didn’t get married at NTCC. Fortunately the families both said NO we want to see you get married not stand in some office. Another church welcomed them in to use their facility. They didn’t judge them. They welcomed them, the way a church should do.

Wednesday, August 14, 2013

How to leave a cult

Found this on Wiki-how - don't know how actually just came up when I was looking up something totally unrelated. I thought it was appropriate and wanted to share it here. Anyone looking to leave please do! You won't get it until you do but you will get it I promise!! How about I put a little "CHECK" by some of those that sound reminiscent of my time at ntcc. . . . you add yours as you read too woncha? 


How to leave a cult:



1.                        Recognize if you're in an abusive religious group. In some places these are called "cults"; in others, "sects" or "fundamentalist" groups. Cults generally involve aggressive misinformation or misinterpretation ("brainwashing"), self-aggrandizement and even worship of a leader, isolation from and disrespect of outsiders, and undermining members' self-esteem. Check
Think through the reasons that cause you to want to leave the cult. Are any of these reasons based on abuse,Check oppression,Check lack of freedom of thought/speech/mobility, etc.?Check If so, consider seeking help from authorities who can intervene where laws are being broken.
Plan your departure. If you're in a cult that lives in a compoundCheck, you might be planning an escape rather than a mere departure. Where this is the case (and if you're even allowed to be reading this article), you'll need to plan very carefully and take any possible opportunity that arises to leave. Either have your bag packed and carefully stowed away, or simply be prepared to forget any possessions and get ready to go at a moment's notice. Even if you can leave at your own leisure, leaving will be no picnic in the park.
Leave. If you're getting away in a hurry from a live-in cult, use opportunities such as when people visit, when you are taken somewhere else outside the compound, when others in your compound decide to make a break for it at the same time (if you know that you can trust them). If you're leaving at your own pace, arrange for collection of you and your possessions by taxi, or a friend or family member not involved in the cult. If you don't need to physically leave the cult but you do need to break ties with it, then not returning to services will be the first indication that you have gone.(JUST LEAVE!!!)
Try to have a place to stay in mind in advance. If you've left a live-in cult arrangement, you'll need a safe place to stay. Consider family, friends, refuges (shelters), or even a mainstream church charity. If you're in danger, the authorities should be able to help. Check - Hey I had to go to a shelter b/c I was left with nothing - it's ok, God will bless and get you out!
Be prepared for recriminations and attempts to get you back.Check Cultists tend to despise those who break ranks and threaten to expose what is really happening inside the cult. You will be viewed as a traitor and as someone who might be worth vilifying and telling lies about. Be prepared for this possibility. Alternately, they might seek to get you back by telling you that you're confused, Checkthat the evil from the outside has infected you, and that you need to return to be cleansed and restored.Check The important thing is to stand firm in believing that your choice to move on is right and that they might try anything. If you're afraid that they might try to physically take you back, seek protection. Finally, be prepared for excommunication and no further word.Check That can actually hurt a lot more than it might seem initially because suddenly you are forever cut off from those people you once knew really well. This is the time to get the support of other people who now surround you.
Remain strong in your convictions and beliefs. Your faith will be tested. You might want to read spiritual texts, read a variety of books with different interpretations of those spiritual texts, and visit other religious groups. It can also help to read about the experiences of other people who have broken away from cults to draw strength from how they coped with it.
Seek support from other people. Many people are sympathetic even if they don't understand the challenges facing those who exit a cult. Sometimes you might also need the help of an expert who specializes in reframing the lives of those who have experienced a cult lifestyle. If you've been under a lot of cult indoctrination expect some emotional withdraw. At the least sleep as much as you need, eat nutritiously and talk with people who are not involved with the cult. This will let you get accustomed to life as a non-cult member.
Continue journeying. Eventually you will be able to talk with others about your experiences and this might even translate to being able to help others in a similar bind. There are support networks online for people who have left cults; you might want to tap into those resources to share stories and spread support. In terms of your own spiritual journey, remain open-minded. The choice of some people to turn beliefs into cultish behaviors and narrow-minded self absorption is the exception rather than the rule. Most people of faith nurture their faith through reaching out to everyone in the community and lead lives that combine the secular and faith in tandem. This is worth striving for to ensure that you are whole and connected.
Tips

  •   If you still live near members of the cult, they might be spiteful or spread gossip about you.Check, Check, and Check! Warn friends, neighbors, etc., of what has happened. Remain polite when you see them around the streets and your persistence in being strong and polite will place you on the higher ground. You never know who might be contemplating the same move as you, so showing that it works can be a sign of support for them.
  • Do not give anyone in the cult the idea you are leaving. They will do their best to convince you and may not just stop at words to make you stay. Just leave quietly.Check
  • Some cults may send people to hunt you down and take you back to the group. You may be in danger. Get help from someone outside, and when you escape hide until it is safe.


Divorcing the Cult . . . . and thespians

I'm inspired to write this because I'm finally, literally, divorcing the cult! I began the process for my divorce. I'll be going in to the court soon to actually file. My ex (well soon to be) though we've been separated for what about 7 years now; he actually "Said" he'd pay for half of the fee. I'll believe it when it happens. I am absolutely shocked he didn't run to the court house the second I said I wanted to separate. But the truth in that (as I've said in the past) was after I said that, and in front of MCK the sleez bag who never was man enough or Godly enough to try to help anyone in their family or marriage, who also must've (Accidentally - I'm sure! NOT) forgot to tell RWD I wanted to talk to him. I was ready to speak my mind but of course, I was beat back down instead. 

In ntcc they encourage if the spouse leaves, the one remaining is FREE to remarry - WELL it is so far from the truth, especially here! HE chose to leave b/c I wouldn't put up with his hypocritical crap any longer. I wonder how many of them "Licensed Preachers" are just like him? He never read, prayed, said anything Godly, UNLESS he was AT church or in front of others, then it was AMEN Brother, Lord Willing, Praying For you, or I read.....the other day - COME ON folks what a lying crock of nonsense! You ain't praying for no one. And Lord willing? LORD WILLING you'd get a brain and get out of thespianism already and become a REAL Christian. And when do they read? The "Licensed Minister" that was my "Husband" (JOKE there) but any way - he never read. Who else? I'd ask, beg him to read with me or pray with me. There was more time for the "Un-TV" on the "Sinnernet" then there was for God. But shhhh don't tell anyone we're watching TV shows or movies on the sinnernet - woulnd't want to be lamb basted or get in trouble. (AKA - shunned) Key words and actions that are important to think about when determining - NTCC IS REALLY A CULT.

So little Danny boy told me - oh yeah, you want a divorce, I'm leaving. Well  I never told him that (until yesterday - 8/13/13). Now I've tried communicating since before yesterday to no response - when I said ok, I'm ready to do this, I need an address to serve you for divorce, boy he chimed right in! Hmmm what a big hypocrite. 
BUT this is where I'm going. . . . he is part of this cult and is a terrible yet good actor like the rest. Goodness, I look back now and see all the theatrics of that cult. . . . I too once was a thespian and I didn't even know it. I didn't start off one. I had a true and genuine desire to worship and serve the Lord when I came to this cult. They seek the genuine and tender hearted. They know how to turn them around and manipulate and that is what they did. They take you to services, or thespian classes if you will. They act, they repetitively act at that. The more the repetitions, the more brainwashing you receive. I stumbled on a couple of articles on how to determine a cult and how to exit a cult. I'm going to post both. We've had things like this before either on mine or any of the other blogs but I think it's good to keep it freshly posted for anyone who comes to it and needs it.

When I was in the cult of ntcc, it was very hard for me to believe any of their nonsense wasn't true until finally one day I just left THEN God could show me. Outsiders can see it. They try to tell you and point it out - we discount it. There are so many trues that shouldn't be discounted in these. 

How to determine a cult:



1.                     1
Learn the organization's foundations. Cults tend to have very simple and similar foundations and common factors having all or some of the following:
o          A charismatic founder, leader or leadership.
o          Have a structured central bureaucracy.
o       Simplified goal or aim structure, such as to save something or introduce something to everyone.
o        A society history, most new initiates are invariably required to learn and respect the founding figures.
o       There is a degree of intellectual limitation, so outside ideas or interaction with non members are not encouraged
o         There is also a system of repercussions, such as shunning, "time out" or isolating or demotion.
o        There is a system of development, so a person may be groomed or encouraged to go towards certain roles, or assist in various ways.
o        There is a tithe, membership dues or other system of getting money from members, rather than earning it externally.
Think about how common this is. You might notice that most political parties, social clubs, sporting & health clubs, credit and banking systems, most religions and nationalities actually have these features and these are not what would be classified as dangerous.
o     Most political parties have founding members, political history, ideology and identity and discourages interaction with "non members" or those with a different ways of looking at things. In effect there is an entrenched discouragement to change ideas, while having a trained loyalty system. There is also a degree of reverence for political leaders in the past, only if they were of that particular party, but members who cross the floor are deemed traitors.
Avoid becoming paranoid. Because the system used is so mainstream, you probably will be seeing it everywhere but that does not make every society or group dangerous. It just gives them the potential to be one.
Decide if there is an element of exploitation either financial or personal. This ultimately is where groups cross the line into a dangerous organization.
Look for the key danger signals for medium level risks: It may be OK to have some association with them, but stay on guard.
o       Members are encouraged to do certain practices, methods & techniques and only those. There is no exploration, modification or comparison with other similar or different systems.
o        The screening of new potential members is quite large as they filter looking for suitable like minded, or easily moldable people. The society can accept and wear the money costs involved in having a very high grassroots turnover to get a few potentially ultra-loyal members, like-minded or easily manipulated members.
o       There is a noticeable degree of repetition, so key figures such as the founder and their stories often repeated to train people to think the same way.
o      There is a medium degree of personal image inflation to make certain figures appear greater than they really were and that association with them is a great or noble thing.
o       Members are all very similar and have minimal contact with the outside world, or the real world.
o        There is a substantial amount of time, money and thought and encouragement invested in promotion, lobbying and marketing.
o       Tax free status a major aspiration, or have already attained that.
o      Funds or proceeds do not stay in the country or state they were earned in.
Investigate further. Such groups might still not be a danger to society, either in design or effect, but could one day be run by someone who will take it that direction very easily.
Look for high risk signs: These are usually signs that it has crossed the line into a dangerous or potentially dangerous organization.
o       Manipulation of initiates is obvious to outsiders.
o       It is very difficult, if not impossible to leave their society. The aim is to make the new person addicted or so familiar that the person loses the ability to be independent, or the fear of repercussions are too high.
o       That members are required to part with large amount of funds or assets.
o        There is a high degree of mental stagnation, so that there is a focusing on key principles or myths and general day to day knowledge is encouraged to be forgotten.
o        There is a degree of mentally stressful or intensive practices. These maybe long meditation retreats with little sleep or food, high intensive workouts or other things. They may be branded with an element of mystique and privilege.
o       That it is impossible for an ordinary member to have the same skills or status as the founder or leadership. So the founder may be a dubbed an avatar, master, guru, Bodhisattva, genius or other highly attained person, but the initiate will never be on the same level, especially if some "powers" are not possible to develop ordinarily or even exist. Members may or may not ever be aware of this. Leaders and next generation leaders are planned with no involvement or selection from the existing members.
o        That all actions committed by members are justified or will be praised. Martyrdom may be encouraged.
o     There is a very effective propaganda system and intensive (but covert) political lobbying.
o    There is not always a vast leadership structure, but there can be. The more manipulative cult leadership prefers a wide gap between their status and others so may practice a more flat working hierarchy. This can create "succession" issues, but usually its known who the next in charge will be in advance.
o    There is a definite separation from society.
If you see these signs, it is best to do one or all of the following.
o     Learn your rights.
o       If you are not prepared to leave the town, Stay calm and simply don't get involved or take risks. Keep a polite distance so you are not made into an "enemy" of their group which can be potentially dangerous in tight knit communities or remote towns. They won't harm you until you are a threat to them.
o      Keep your thoughts and feelings to only those you trust.
o      Encourage dialogue and exchanges between other groups. This prevents minorities or dissenters being silenced and the "cult" taking over the town. This does have confrontation risks if that was the plan all along however.
o      Move if it becomes intolerable or unsafe. No-one is keeping you there but yourself.
o       Notify your federal law enforcement agency if there is a clear sign of the law being broken. Legally they need a "smoking gun" to act on. 


Warnings
  •    The most manipulative ones tend to be the most mundane to look at because they are designed to avoid being the focus of attention.
  •     As mentioned before, be safe and avoid taking risks. They won't place much interest in you until you are a risk to them, or you are a good "fish" to catch.
  •    Paranoia is really your biggest enemy, dangerous cults do exist but they actually aren't very common or have much to do with the outside world.



Thursday, August 8, 2013

JIG A BOO

Lies, all lies - within the first couple of pages of the bible, we read of Satan. He was beautiful, yet his purpose was not that of beauty. He came to lie and deceive.  Satan wasn't the only one who had a pretty face with a black heart.

Can you walk with God and not know God's word? God's voice? God's truth? Many times we don't even think about it or we assume God would give us a special insight if what we "believe" isn't true. Many "Christians" including those who have professed to be so for many years, are clueless when it comes to the Word of God.

Can you quote a bible verse for every year you were a "Christian"? Can  you tell when God is telling you that is false or when He gives you the go ahead? Do we know when we're asking for God to help us what His voice sounds like when the reply comes?

Why do we follow someone, anyone, who has a "License" that says "Preacher" or "Minister" on it? If someone offers a juicy song and dance from behind the pulpit, does that make him a great preacher? Did that make that a sermon straight from God Himself or a sermon straight from hell?  Just because someone can "Cut the rug" or "Speak in tongues", does that make them Holy, prophets, true men/women of God?  If someone-A-speaks loud-A-and breaths hard-A- while preaching-A- does that make their sermon straight from the spirit of the Lord?

Why don't we question these people? Why do we not test to see if the fruits are real? It's time to WAKE UP!!! Don't take a "License" as the gospel truth! Just because they talk fast A, loud A, bold A, and can move you, doesn't mean it's the gospel truth! Just because someone can pump, and prime, and move the masses, it doesn't make the service a Holy Ghost break down!!! It simply means you were moved IN YOUR FLESH by the HYPE or EXCITEMENT of that persons theatrics.

Can you recite 10 bible verses? 20?  Can you read the Word of God and know what GOD says not what someone with hype from a pulpit with a paper in their wallet says? Do you know what God's vision is in your life? In your families life? For your job? Your future? YOUR LIFE?  If you said no to any of these, you just might be a JIG A BOO.

I was introduced to P4CM - Passion for Christ Movement. There are several poets who recite poems with meaning, inspiration, etc. delivering a good message - not just poems, but art. This lady calls a spade a spade and a Jig A Boo, a Jig A Boo. Are you a spade or a Jig A Boo?  You Tube - Jig A Boo

Get up and ask God to show you HIS Truth. Don't let the hype of some feel good message move you - LET GOD MOVE YOU. Don't let some Jig A Boo tell you what you should know. Get in to the Word and get to know for yourself!! 

God loves you and doesn't want you to be a lost Jig A Boo. Come to know His word and find Peace and freedom from the Jig A Boo lifestyle. Don't be held or enslaved to the ways of the Jig A Boo.

God bless,

Kat

PS: If any one is offended by the title or the use of the word Jig A Boo - then please hit your knees. I'm not using a slanderous word regarding any race or color. I'm re-using the word another person used as someone who is a hulla-ba-loo, hot air breathing, bag of hypocrisy. I in no way intend to offend any specific skin color or race - only those hypocrites. . . . . as such, once was I. Hypocrites come in every color, red, brown, yellow, black, and white. The bible says we are ALL precious in His sight - you remember the song right?




Monday, June 10, 2013

Moving on and giving to the poor

  
When I started my story I ended with having to give up my home. I had a large home, a beautiful home, but that isn't the ntcc way. . . . . well for the minions anyway. They require you give all you can and then they require more. I was preached at over and over because I was working. We finally agreed that I would give up my job of 7 1/2 years to be "Right with the Lord". Well I know now that wasn't what God said to do. They wanted me to be submissive and working sure wouldn't be the way to do it.

After quitting, I was encouraged to attend every service, go out during the week door knocking, go out on the weekend door knocking, go to women's studies and prayers, etc. If I didn't go, I needed to be seriously sick or in the hospital or dead. Otherwise, I was likened to a sinner. The pastor's wife always had a way of shaming you if you said I won't be able to make it today. Our schedule for the most part was: Monday night prayer, Tuesday morning women’s prayer & door knocking, Wednesday bible study, Thursday morning women’s prayer and likely more door knocking, then service followed by prayer, Friday was sometimes off and sometimes door knocking, prayer or something. We all know Saturday is more door knocking & church service and Sunday 2 services. Ok, even as a stay at home mom, is that not exhausting? That schedule was more than what a lot of churches were doing!

The person I was with at that time turned out to have more interest in children than he did adults so of course, he's in prison (this has been shared some on other blogs). I ended up back at work. While working, they still wanted me to keep the schedule (except during the day which I no longer could due to working). I'd get hit with tithe, offering, missions offering (which we also know they don't get all the funds we give to the missions) budget offering, offering for the traveling guests that always came and give some more . . . . give until it hurts because "ALL Christians pay tithe and give in offerings" and Gawd "Loves a cheerful giver".  I’m not saying I don’t want to pay tithe and give in offerings but this was wrong!

So I’d like to reflect on what the bible says about a few things here: (NIV Provers 14:31) Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God. (Or KJV says it like this:  31 He that oppresseth the poor reproacheth his Maker: but he that honoureth him hath mercy on the poor.)

AND Provers 17:5 says this (KJV) Whoso mocketh the poor reproacheth his Maker: and he that is glad at calamities shall not be unpunished.
(NIV version: Whoever mocks the poor shows contempt for their Maker; whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished).

Two things I want to share from these 2 verses – #1 we (or at least I felt so) like we were mocked for being poor (HELLO – THEY HAD ALL OUR MONEY)! And #2 they mocked the homeless people. They didn’t want us feeding the poor or giving anything to them. I always heard “We weren’t called to build no soup kitchen”. WELL back up – did you read these versus? Because there are more! And while you’re NOT building a soup kitchen, and while you are mocking the poor, did you read what came from the word of God above? Also, my bible tells us to go out into all the world and preach the gospel. It didn’t say to the rich, the wealthy, those who are willing to work hard and give you all their money. The poor and homeless deserve to hear the good Word as much as anyone else.

So they LOVE to use 2 Corinthians 9:7 about God loving a cheerful giver BUT what about 2 versus below? What about (2 Corinthians (9:9-15):  (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever. 10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;) 11 Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God. 12 For the administration of this service not only supplieth the want of the saints, but is abundant also by many thanksgivings unto God;  13 Whiles by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto all men;  14 And by their prayer for you, which long after you for the exceeding grace of God in you.  15 Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift. (Or if NIV helps you here: As it is written: “They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor;     their righteousness endures forever.” 10 Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness. 11 You will be enriched in every way so that you can be generous on every occasion, and through us your generosity will result in thanksgiving to God. 12 This service that you perform is not only supplying the needs of the Lord’s people but is also overflowing in many expressions of thanks to God. 13 Because of the service by which you have proved yourselves, others will praise God for the obedience that accompanies your confession of the gospel of Christ, and for your generosity in sharing with them and with everyone else. 14 And in their prayers for you their hearts will go out to you, because of the surpassing grace God has given you. 15 Thanks be to God for his indescribable gift!)

SO this shows me a couple of things - #1 in 2 Corinthians they willingly scattered what they had to the poor – up to the challenge ntcc folk? Why don’t you? How about you Mr. MCK – wanna give a bumb a ride in your car you bragged about to my son? No? You don’t want to be blessed by God? You Davis? You Olson?  You see here it says they were blessed. You preached it and many believed it. And I do believe because those who had their faith in God where blessed but most had a false hope in ntcc. #2 others would be able to praise God if ntcc had faith and a heart to do the same. It says here in the scriptures ntcc likes to look over. They don’t want the poor, they don’t want to give to the needy because how would they have their mansions? This shows me their faith is in manna and not on God.

If you’re still in ntcc or hopcc, I hope and pray you’ll find hope and healing and realize God isn’t the way it is preached on you in these cults. God is a God of Love and mercy. Step out and reach out to any of us and let us help you. We will keep sharing our stories in hopes to help one more. He is waiting to have a real, loving relationship with you. We’re here to help you!



He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.

So ntcc will tell you we are to go into the world and preach but not give our money to the poor. As they would say, 'We're not called to build no soup kitchen!' 'We don't need no Starbucks to get them in.' 'We aren't going to have a sports game to get them in church either.'  I've also witnessed Davis, MCK and others mock the poor, discourage bringing the poor. They 'don't want lazy folks'. They want the working folk so they can make them work and take all their money.