Touching base again - reaching out for anyone searching for answers, for help, for healing. I was in NTCC (New Testament Christian Church) for 13 years. Leaving doesn't make you an evil person, a sinner, someone that will die and go to hell. You can leave, have life, love life, have a great life, and a great relationship with God and others, including yourself!!! and you don't need mucks to control you.
I AM AMAZED at how much I have heard since leaving. I saw Mr Kekel himself. Did I say hello to him. NO it wasn't worth my time and no love lost that he didn't say hello to me either. However on the hilarious side, a few days later an active NTCC member saw my son. He told this cult member that we saw puppet master Kekel the other day. He already knew. He said they heard all about it. YES, I'm glad I can be the topic of your firey spews because you have nothing better to speak about.
I'm FINALLY getting my divorce from my Nazi puppet ex who is also still a cult member. He was proud to tell me he read my post's and that he wouldn't have known they were there except another Nazi puppet cult member told him. Y'all are cracking me up!!! When I was "In" it was a SIN (SHAME ON YOU SINNERS!!!) to read these blogs! Oh well guess they'll be hypocrite sinners.
Ok, sorry for my rampage. I got lost. . . . . anyway, there is hope, help, joy, happiness, meaning and so much more. If you're reading and pondering, email me, call me, text me! I can be reached at mommakat01@yahoo.com or 253-389-5517. I plan to keep this # and email hopefully until death do I part - reach me any day, any time, any year.
Love, peace, best wishes, and blessings.
Kat
Kat Jones-Doubikin ~ hope & healing (NTCC Xer)
Friday, May 13, 2016
Monday, September 28, 2015
Update/Reaching Out
Hi All,
It's been a long time since I've posted. First I want to let anyone know who's hear searching for answers about NTCC (new testament christian church) know that I'm always here to help and answer questions. Always feel free to email me at mommakat01@yahoo.com
Today life is well. I have been healing, changing, improving, and much happier. God is the center of my joy and not any church or their laws. Jesus came to love, to save, and to deliver not bind us up. Christ did away with the legalism of the Old Testament.
My prayer is anyone struggling with leaving NTCC prays, desperately asking God to open their eyes to see the truth!
Please feel free to email me any time!
I'll check in from time to time and if anything happens along the way with ntcc, I'll bring you the update.
God Bless and Many Hugs!!!
Kat
It's been a long time since I've posted. First I want to let anyone know who's hear searching for answers about NTCC (new testament christian church) know that I'm always here to help and answer questions. Always feel free to email me at mommakat01@yahoo.com
Today life is well. I have been healing, changing, improving, and much happier. God is the center of my joy and not any church or their laws. Jesus came to love, to save, and to deliver not bind us up. Christ did away with the legalism of the Old Testament.
My prayer is anyone struggling with leaving NTCC prays, desperately asking God to open their eyes to see the truth!
Please feel free to email me any time!
I'll check in from time to time and if anything happens along the way with ntcc, I'll bring you the update.
God Bless and Many Hugs!!!
Kat
Monday, January 20, 2014
Two more free!
I'm not giving names - it's their story to tell and their choice to share, but TWO more are FREE!!! I have been friends with "Mary" and she has left the grasps of this brainwashing establishment. Well, "Joseph" has now left too. PRAISE GOD is all I can say!
You are not alone! Leaving WILL NOT send you to hell! Jesus came to fulfill the law. God is a God of LOVE not fear! You don't have to stay there because of fear. They convince you leaving means you'll die and go to hell. THIS IS A MIND CONTROL GAME USING FEAR. Don't let them manipulate you and rob you of your life. You can leave and you can have a loving relationship with God and with others.
Praying for all those who are there still. No matter what state you live in, I'm here to help! You can always contact me at mommakat01@yahoo.com or 253-389-5517.
Blessings!
MommaKat
You are not alone! Leaving WILL NOT send you to hell! Jesus came to fulfill the law. God is a God of LOVE not fear! You don't have to stay there because of fear. They convince you leaving means you'll die and go to hell. THIS IS A MIND CONTROL GAME USING FEAR. Don't let them manipulate you and rob you of your life. You can leave and you can have a loving relationship with God and with others.
Praying for all those who are there still. No matter what state you live in, I'm here to help! You can always contact me at mommakat01@yahoo.com or 253-389-5517.
Blessings!
MommaKat
Monday, January 13, 2014
Deciphering the truth in the voices
I want you to think back and find something . . . . I want you to think on any point in your life when you re ally, trully just had to lift your hands in praise. Find a moment when you were in or near tears because your heart was over whelmed with a pre sence of God. Recall a time when you KNOW you felt God speaking to you, moving thru you. Find that moment where you were over come with His love and joy and you had NO DOUBT it was God. . . . . . It doesn't matter if you were in a church, in your kitchen, in your shower, in your car. Don't think about a church hype moment. I want you to think about a moment YOU had. I want to ask you to find one of those moments, close your eyes and trully think about that moment. Recall it. Embrace it. Don't move on until you found that moment.
Now,re member that moment? Remember when you KNEW it was God? Remember when you had no doubt God was blessing you, that God was speaking to you. It was a moment when there was no doubt in your mind that you heard God. You can't falsify that. You can't discount that YOU knew it was God. Remember that voice - that was God speaking to you and telling you He was there with you. Think about that voice as we move on. Think about the possibility where you may have even questioned, may have even hoped you were right that it was God. But then that proverbial angel on the shoulder helped you to know it was re al.
Now, I want you to think about a time when you struggled because someone left your church, or someone said a bad word, or someone questioned something a pastor said, or someone disagre ed with something. Whatever it was, I want you to think about a time you felt bad because something happened and it wasn't "Ok" with the church. It was against what they pre ached. I want you to think about what your mind re called (something like well they left the church so now I can't talk to them any more because they left God). Whatever the situation was, I want you to think about it and what you thought and how you felt.
NOW I want you to go deeper into that thought. Do youre member the struggle of thinking but why? Remember that voice that questioned if that was re ally the way it should be? Now do you re member the other voice coming up telling you not to question because you were told not to?
Let’s bring this all together......So the voice you heard in that high praise was God! No doubt. No question, right? The voice you heard in your heart say why is it I’m accepting this in that moment of doubt when you had to deal with something you didn't understand . . . . that too was God trying to tell you it's ok. You don't have to do this. You see, the fulfilling of the law was in Christ. God doesn't want any of us to live legally. He wants us to serve him because we love Him. He wants us to love others, no matter what church they go to or where they live. He doesn't want our life to be hard, grievous, and legalistic. He wants us to fre ely worship, to fre ely serve. The voice you heard telling you NO don't give in to questioning. Don't give in to thinking its ok to talk to so and so after leaving or whatever your scenario was, that voice - that is your enemy. That is not of God.
If you're still in this "church" and you find yourself battling why, I encourage you to pray. Ask God to re veal the truth to you. Don't discount the gut feeling in your heart!
Let me share with you just ONE very important piece of scripture :
Romans 13:10 (KJV) - Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: there fore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Romans 13:10 NIV - Love does no harm to a neighbor. There fore love is the fulfillment of the law.
If we have love – if we have God’s love, it works no ill to our neighbor. There is NO stipulation if thy neighbour is in your church! It doesn’t say if this neighbour is doing exactly what the church leader commandeth. It says it works NO ILL to his neighbour PERIOD. It also says, very important here – THEREFORE love is the fulfilling of the law. This means YOU ARE FREE. It doesn’t mean do whatever you want, but you are NOT bound to live a legal bound life of laws. If you are a Christian; if you have the love of God in your heart, YOU are more than capable of making good decisions and doing the right thing. You don’t have to be oppre ssed to only fellowship with this person or can’t go here , can’t go there , can’t do this. The bible isn’t a bible of can’t do’s. If you have the love of God in your life, you’ll WANT to do what is right. And if you mess up, guess what God will still be there and will love you the same and He’ll help you back up!
Please prayerfully consider God’s word. You don’t have to be miserable, unhappy, broke, abandoned, without your family & friends, homeless and everything else that you’re going thru. Having a nice home and a savings isn’t for the select few or the lucky few; it’s for everyone and God wants to bless you.
Blessings and prayers that you find your voice and hear the voice of God!
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Blessings and prayers that you find your voice and hear the voice of God!
Monday, December 30, 2013
Lost & Dying Sheep
Lately I have been visiting a church with my friend (we'll call her "Mary"). Mary is someone who vowed 2013 would be the last time she ever stepped foot in the cult, AKA ntcc. Her husband still goes (though it appears there is hope not much longer). "Mary" wanted to find a new church she could be happy at and feel at home at. I told her I'd be happy to go with her and so I have. She went to a few and she wasn't sure , but finally, she found one that she thinks she will like. I told her I'd go with her for a little while (as I alre ady have a church home) until she felt comfortable enough to go on her own, after establishing a re por and some friendships.
As "Mary" and I spend time talking, I'mre minded of several people I once knew. She's share d with me how miserable they are . So many are nearly homeless, are jobless, have to go to food banks for food and just plain depre ssed. It is so heart bre aking to know there are so many. Person after person she re minds me of names of people I know and tells me of there despair. Where is ntcc? Why don't they care ?! I have another friend I'll be emailing back this week who has share d with me their story and I'm not at all shocked! These stories are n't mine to tell but they are heart bre aking! My point is this: #1 SO many are still sitting there with this cult lost, hurt, destroyed, frustrated, broken, poor, homeless, unloved, un-nurture d, beat down, and the list goes on and on and on with these conditions. And #2 this isn't what Christ came to the flesh for. This isn't what God intended for his people to endure !
I want to share part of John 10 - I'm going to post both KJV and The Message. I love comparing other versions because they bre ak it down. I still go by KJV BUT if I'm stuck or need a little further meaning, other versions can help so please see The Message below the KJV below:
John 10:1-18 KJV:
re th in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.
7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture .
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
12 But he that is an hire ling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattere th the sheep.
13 The hire ling fleeth, because he is an hire ling, and care th not for the sheep.
14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
17 There fore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have Ire ceived of my Father.
John 10:1-18 "The Message":
re up to no good—sheep stealers, every one of them. But the sheep didn’t listen to them. I am the Gate. Anyone who goes through me will be care d for—will fre ely go in and out, and find pasture . A thief is only there to steal and kill and destroy. I came so they can have re al and eternal life, more and better life than they ever dre amed of.
11-13 “I am the Good Shepherd. The Good Shepherd puts the sheep before himself, sacrifices himself if necessary. A hire d man is not a re al shepherd. The sheep mean nothing to him. He sees a wolf come and runs for it, leaving the sheep to be ravaged and scattere d by the wolf. He’s only in it for the money. The sheep don’t matter to him.
14-18 “I am the Good Shepherd. I know my own sheep and my own sheep know me. In the same way, the Father knows me and I know the Father. I put the sheep before myself, sacrificing myself if necessary. You need to know that I have other sheep in addition to those in this pen. I need to gather and bring them, too. They’ll also re cognize my voice. Then it will be one flock, one Shepherd. This is why the Father loves me: because I fre ely lay down my life. And so I am fre e to take it up again. No one takes it from me. I lay it down of my own fre e will. I have the right to lay it down; I also have the right to take it up again. I re ceived this authority personally from my Father.”
NTCC knows this. They get you used to their voice so you will follow them. They condition you to hear their voice. They come dre ssed as a shepherd but are re ally a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Jesus said that He came that they might have life and that more abundantly. What an amazing and loving God! But can ntcc say that? NO they can't! The only ones that have life and that more abundantly are those in the high ranks in the borg. The sad part is though there abundant life is only here on earth. Davis , Kekel, and such are living high off the hog, padded wallets, etc. I'm begging if you are still in this cult and something has hit a nerve with you today PLEASE know there is TRUE Christian life outside of this place! The life is being sucked out of you. It isn't by some chance you are here re ading this! The anger you feel from me writing this, from me calling that place a cult is from the conditioning THEY have put in your heart, NOT an anger from God! I can't tell you how much better my CHRISTIAN walk is since I left! I have a REAL re lationship with God. I'm not confused and struggling and beat down any more ! I am focused on a re al re lationship with Christ and what He wants for me. He wants to love you! He wants to see you prosper. He wants to see you happy! You deserve it! Jesus said 'come to me all you who are weary and heavy laden and I will give you re st'. Come, trust God, re store your heart, re store your mental health, and re store your salvation with a true spark of a loving savior who wants to Give to YOU and not YOU give all to a cult.
You can always email me at mommakat01@yahoo.com - I will always keep everything confidential or you can text me anonymously at 253-389-5517 or call. I'm here to listen. I'm here to help.
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John 10:1-18 "The Message":
10 1-5 “Let me set this before you as plainly as I can. If a person climbs over or through the fence of a sheep pen instead of going through the gate, you know he’s up to no good—a sheep rustler! The shepherd walks right up to the gate. The gatekeeper opens the gate to him and the sheep re cognize his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he gets them all out, he leads them and they follow because they are familiar with his voice. They won’t follow a stranger’s voice but will scatter because they are n’t used to the sound of it.”
6-10 Jesus told this simple story, but they had no idea what he was talking about. So he tried again. “I’ll be explicit, then. I am the Gate for the sheep. All those others a11-13 “I am the Good Shepherd. The Good Shepherd puts the sheep befo
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NTCC knows this. They get you used to their voice so you will follow them. They condition you to hear their voice. They come d
You can always email me at mommakat01@yahoo.com - I will always keep everything confidential or you can text me anonymously at 253-389-5517 or call. I'm he
Friday, November 8, 2013
Healing. . . . mentally, spiritually AND physically . . . .
For those of you that knew me, you knew I am no small person. You have likely seen me "Grow" literally thru the ntcc years. I wouldn't say I was a huge eater often but I was a wrong eater - eating the wrong things because it was cheap and I didn't have money (something you never hear in ntcc right??!! Yeah wrong!). I ate at all the wrong times because we didn't have time to be normal. I already have the DNA of fat folk and I'm Italian - hello!
Now that I am gone and free, I am spiritually, and mentally better and God has given me strength to become physically better as well. To date, I'm currently down 85 lbs (in the past 4 1/2 months) and my son is down over 65 for over 150# comine weight loss!
Here's my progress (so far):
Now that I am gone and free, I am spiritually, and mentally better and God has given me strength to become physically better as well. To date, I'm currently down 85 lbs (in the past 4 1/2 months) and my son is down over 65 for over 150# comine weight loss!
Here's my progress (so far):
Sunday, October 27, 2013
I DO! . . . . . promise to break any rule I want!!
Well, well, well, congratulations is in order for the Kekel's - seeing how they recently renewed their wedding vows. Oh but wait, no need to stop just there. How many of you got married in an ntcc cult chapel and were told nothing fancy? How many of you ladies had to wear something simple, no fancy decorations, well no decorations period? How many of you had no big reception, or no reception either? How many men just wore their "Sunday suit & tie" to tie that not?
I believe you all raised your hands. Then please someone tell me WHY the kekel's had a HUGE whoopty doodles to renew their vows? Yes, the big fancy, extravagant dress; the fancy dresses for the flower girls. OH and did I mention the trains on the dresses? How about the decorations? How about the decorations in the fellowship hall? The crystals and glitz and glamour of it all. Nice wedding cake too! WOW
So these folks never cease to amaze me! And those that were there watching all this, what did you think? I bet you wanted to question how they can but you cant and didn't have the ability to do so because deep inside you there is fear and the brainwashed idea of you can't speak up. WELL follow your gut. If you thought it, you were probably right! I don't write this blog in hate. I write it in love to say it's just not right! I wouldn't give into my curiosity because of the brainwashing but thank GOD that I finally listened to Him. You have 2 voices in you. The one that is God telling you this isn't right has been beaten down by the brainwashing voice you hear saying it's not of god to question. Well God says it is. Need scripture to prove it? Message me and we can go there.
Another thing that is bothering me that just happened yesterday; I was gone all day. Knock, knock, knock - guess who? It was them cult folks out there Soul winning". My son said yeah my mom used to go there and they went on and on and on. They told my son, 'do you remember Sister Eaton's son, Christian?' and my son said yes. They went on to say, 'well his mom stopped coming too but he still comes without her. he doesn't have to and you can too.' Ok I MUST share, since they are using this young man for an example YET it wasn't too many years ago as a young teen, he was investigated for molesting children of an ex ntcc member. The church dismissed it b/c she left and she "Had a truckers mouth". WHAT!!!! What does a truckers mouth have to do with a serious allegation such as this? Yes, it ended up not going very far with the police and I will tell you why . . . . . THEY - ntcc gave credibility for this boy b/c he and his mom attended church. ***Now I am not going to say he did or didn't do it BUT children don't usually know how to say sexual things happened to them just from imagination. It came from somewhere and her children said he did. I do know for an absolute fact that he used to babysit for the mother of the small children. She never allowed it after that. This all comes directly as I recall it b/c I was friends with both mothers at the time.
It's a sad place I'm telling you to twist the rules to work for the kekels and to protect the alleged of such things and they ALWAYS do it. Yes, no church, no place is perfect and each has there share of people as such but why folks do you follow this kind of 'church'/cult? If you have that deep intuitional instinct of run, you should! If you have that instinct of ask, you can but they're just going to treat you like the devil if you do - so I'd plan on leaving after asking, or better yet, just leave and find that God really isn't a slave master. He's a love master and he wants to love and bless you!
I believe you all raised your hands. Then please someone tell me WHY the kekel's had a HUGE whoopty doodles to renew their vows? Yes, the big fancy, extravagant dress; the fancy dresses for the flower girls. OH and did I mention the trains on the dresses? How about the decorations? How about the decorations in the fellowship hall? The crystals and glitz and glamour of it all. Nice wedding cake too! WOW
So these folks never cease to amaze me! And those that were there watching all this, what did you think? I bet you wanted to question how they can but you cant and didn't have the ability to do so because deep inside you there is fear and the brainwashed idea of you can't speak up. WELL follow your gut. If you thought it, you were probably right! I don't write this blog in hate. I write it in love to say it's just not right! I wouldn't give into my curiosity because of the brainwashing but thank GOD that I finally listened to Him. You have 2 voices in you. The one that is God telling you this isn't right has been beaten down by the brainwashing voice you hear saying it's not of god to question. Well God says it is. Need scripture to prove it? Message me and we can go there.
Another thing that is bothering me that just happened yesterday; I was gone all day. Knock, knock, knock - guess who? It was them cult folks out there Soul winning". My son said yeah my mom used to go there and they went on and on and on. They told my son, 'do you remember Sister Eaton's son, Christian?' and my son said yes. They went on to say, 'well his mom stopped coming too but he still comes without her. he doesn't have to and you can too.' Ok I MUST share, since they are using this young man for an example YET it wasn't too many years ago as a young teen, he was investigated for molesting children of an ex ntcc member. The church dismissed it b/c she left and she "Had a truckers mouth". WHAT!!!! What does a truckers mouth have to do with a serious allegation such as this? Yes, it ended up not going very far with the police and I will tell you why . . . . . THEY - ntcc gave credibility for this boy b/c he and his mom attended church. ***Now I am not going to say he did or didn't do it BUT children don't usually know how to say sexual things happened to them just from imagination. It came from somewhere and her children said he did. I do know for an absolute fact that he used to babysit for the mother of the small children. She never allowed it after that. This all comes directly as I recall it b/c I was friends with both mothers at the time.
It's a sad place I'm telling you to twist the rules to work for the kekels and to protect the alleged of such things and they ALWAYS do it. Yes, no church, no place is perfect and each has there share of people as such but why folks do you follow this kind of 'church'/cult? If you have that deep intuitional instinct of run, you should! If you have that instinct of ask, you can but they're just going to treat you like the devil if you do - so I'd plan on leaving after asking, or better yet, just leave and find that God really isn't a slave master. He's a love master and he wants to love and bless you!
Wednesday, October 9, 2013
Sports Talk . . . . .
I have an employee who always wanted to do a sports blog. He's been like a son to me and I try to mentor him as sort of a spiritual mom. I encouraged him to start a blog and he did. I'm going to post a link on my blog. Feel free to check it out and he gives permission to anyone else who wants to share the link. He would LOVE any comments and interaction (even if you don't agree with his comments - PS - Matt, if you check this out, He's a Seahawks fan and a Chargers fan too yucky! - he went way wrong there with the Chargers!!! lol)
<3 MommaKat - GOOOOOOOOO NINERS!!!
***NEW LINK:
http://rikroksportstalk.blogspot.com/
<3 MommaKat - GOOOOOOOOO NINERS!!!
***NEW LINK:
http://rikroksportstalk.blogspot.com/
Monday, September 16, 2013
NTCC Games; sneak n peak
Ok, I know this is silly, BUT I was curious what would be said and though I expected to hear something along these lines, I still didn't expect to hear this:
So there is someone I knew who is still in the cult, that is still in denial that it's a cult, that unfriended me from FB. And really, I am ok with it. I was however, curious why this person would try to friend my boys after unfriending me. I thought does this person want to save my boys from the vortex black whole of apostate they think I am? Seriously? I couldn't resist asking a question to this person to see if that was what they thought.
Keep in mind - what I asked seems silly, BUT I know this person well enough to know a simple question wouldn't get answered by her. I knew I'd have to ask a off the collar, thought provoking question to get an answer. So, I sent a message to this person and said, ' What are the top 3 things you dislike about me the most'? (I expected something about me leaving). I knew that IF they responded, they'd give a circled song and dance. I wasn't looking for something to post. I wasn't looking to mend the past. I was just curious what the mind set was. My boys can care less about this person anyway. They don't play the ntcc hunger games!
The response came, indicating they are trying to follow God and not those things that would keep them from their goal. Yeah, ok, whatever, because I'm such an apostate now that I don't attend that cult. But then she said: "I have no bitterness or hatred toward no man, I cleared that out of my heart. Neither have I wrote a blog to speak no evil towards no man."
OMG folks, I almost fell out of my chair when I saw that. Seriously. SO I have ONE question. Why mention anything with a blog? PLEASE don't tell me you or any other member of that cult would be a hypocrite - they aren't sneaking a peek are they? Are you? You better go put more money in the offering basket and pray your sins are forgiven for doing such a terrible act! Don't worry, I won't tell on you though . . . . . b/c you "Weren't reading this anyway".
Ok, I'm sarcastic but COME ON. I am sick and tired of the way this cult teaches them to be hypocrites. I LOVE what I saw D n A say - with REAL Christians, what you see is what you get. AMEN and AMEN.
And why did she have to clear their heart of bitterness? I cleared my heart of bitterness since I left that cult. Guess what - I no longer have bitterness. If you have bitterness it's called what you see is what you get!
Ok I have a set of scriptures - I was only going to reference vs. 36-40 below BUT a lot of this reminds me of them cult folk:
Matthew 22: 21-29 & 36-40
They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render there fore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
22 When they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.
23 The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no re surre ction, and asked him,
24 Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no childre n, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
25 Now there were with us seven bre thre n: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother:
26 Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh.
27 And last of all the woman died also.
28 There fore in the re surre ction whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
29 Jesus answere d and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scripture s, nor the power of God.
……… 36 Master, which is the gre at commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and gre at commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Just like the cult they marvel at words they should receive but don't want to hear/believe. Then just like the Sadducees, they marry, remarry, and remarry. I think they just can't wait for the next death or divorce to get the recycled bride. Seriously SMH! THANK GOD there is no marriage in heaven. If any of the cult makes it to heaven, can you imgaine the fights, no she's my wife - well I married her first??!!
The best part here is vs. 36-40. The only commandments herein we must live by, Post JESUS is to love the Lord with all your heart and love your neighbor. If you love God, you'll want to love your neighbor and love them to Him. You won't want to force them or hate them if they don't follow your cult or if they leave your cult. I don't really care if they hate me. I don't want anyone thinking they need to save my boys from me b/c I don't attend or follow the cult ways anymore either! Yes, I have a new hair do, jewelery, and even makeup. AND I'm not going to hell either. I love God and have more peace in my life now than I ever did! My youngest son, who I thought would be the hardest for me to connect with is being inspired by the changes in my life. THANK YOU JESUS! I couldn't have said that before while I attended this cult.
Don't judge us folks b/c we don't attend your cult any more and I won't judge you for still being there, or for sneaking a peek at our blogs. God loves you. All He wants is your fellowship and love. He doesn't want you to live a ritualistic, legalistic life. You don't have to go the martyrs way. Go God's way!
So there is someone I knew who is still in the cult, that is still in denial that it's a cult, that unfriended me from FB. And really, I am ok with it. I was however, curious why this person would try to friend my boys after unfriending me. I thought does this person want to save my boys from the vortex black whole of apostate they think I am? Seriously? I couldn't resist asking a question to this person to see if that was what they thought.
Keep in mind - what I asked seems silly, BUT I know this person well enough to know a simple question wouldn't get answered by her. I knew I'd have to ask a off the collar, thought provoking question to get an answer. So, I sent a message to this person and said, ' What are the top 3 things you dislike about me the most'? (I expected something about me leaving). I knew that IF they responded, they'd give a circled song and dance. I wasn't looking for something to post. I wasn't looking to mend the past. I was just curious what the mind set was. My boys can care less about this person anyway. They don't play the ntcc hunger games!
The response came, indicating they are trying to follow God and not those things that would keep them from their goal. Yeah, ok, whatever, because I'm such an apostate now that I don't attend that cult. But then she said: "I have no bitterness or hatred toward no man, I cleared that out of my heart. Neither have I wrote a blog to speak no evil towards no man."
OMG folks, I almost fell out of my chair when I saw that. Seriously. SO I have ONE question. Why mention anything with a blog? PLEASE don't tell me you or any other member of that cult would be a hypocrite - they aren't sneaking a peek are they? Are you? You better go put more money in the offering basket and pray your sins are forgiven for doing such a terrible act! Don't worry, I won't tell on you though . . . . . b/c you "Weren't reading this anyway".
Ok, I'm sarcastic but COME ON. I am sick and tired of the way this cult teaches them to be hypocrites. I LOVE what I saw D n A say - with REAL Christians, what you see is what you get. AMEN and AMEN.
And why did she have to clear their heart of bitterness? I cleared my heart of bitterness since I left that cult. Guess what - I no longer have bitterness. If you have bitterness it's called what you see is what you get!
Ok I have a set of scriptures - I was only going to reference vs. 36-40 below BUT a lot of this reminds me of them cult folk:
Matthew 22: 21-29 & 36-40
They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render the
23 The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that the
24 Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no child
25 Now the
26 Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh.
27 And last of all the woman died also.
28 The
29 Jesus answe
……… 36 Master, which is the g
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and g
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
The best part here is vs. 36-40. The only commandments herein we must live by, Post JESUS is to love the Lord with all your heart and love your neighbor. If you love God, you'll want to love your neighbor and love them to Him. You won't want to force them or hate them if they don't follow your cult or if they leave your cult. I don't really care if they hate me. I don't want anyone thinking they need to save my boys from me b/c I don't attend or follow the cult ways anymore either! Yes, I have a new hair do, jewelery, and even makeup. AND I'm not going to hell either. I love God and have more peace in my life now than I ever did! My youngest son, who I thought would be the hardest for me to connect with is being inspired by the changes in my life. THANK YOU JESUS! I couldn't have said that before while I attended this cult.
Don't judge us folks b/c we don't attend your cult any more and I won't judge you for still being there, or for sneaking a peek at our blogs. God loves you. All He wants is your fellowship and love. He doesn't want you to live a ritualistic, legalistic life. You don't have to go the martyrs way. Go God's way!
Friday, September 13, 2013
Publically forbidden; privately approved!
One day (time frame irre levant) I met with a dear friend of mine, also an Xer. She has childre n who happen to still attend NTCC after she left. One of her childre n was engaged to be married. The fiancĂ© to this party had been pre viously married. The ex-spouse abandoned and left the re lationship and childre n. This single pare nt has been raising the childre n. My friends’ child would happily marry and become a part of their life and begin a new family.
As plans were being made, clothing purchased for the big event, etc. Mr. Sneak & Don’t tell Kinson told this young couple, ‘well I don’t know if you two would be living in sin because this one was married before ; so we can’t marry you two in the chapel, BUT I’ll marry you in my office.’ WHAT – WHAT?? Really??? IF, IF they were indeed doing something against God, IF they were indeed going to be married in sin, HOW, PLEASE tell me HOW would marrying them in the secre tive walls of your office will make it right? Please – I’d love to know how. Would you have acted like you didn’t do it and let the people judge as they will? Because you and your people DO judge.
That’s one of the biggest problems YOU ALL JUDGE. I have one tip, one word of advice. It is in verse 5 below:
Matthew 7:1-5:
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but conside
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
HYPOCRITE get the hypocrisy out of your own life FIRST then you will see God is a God of grace, love, and mercy. WHO are you to judge? NTCC’er – WHY do you judge? If you’re still in and judging others – you’re no more saved than your borg leaders. You all talk about those of us who left and got true salvation, but why don’t you ask your leaders why doing something like this is okay? I’d love to know why myself. You won’t get an answer.
I don’t judge them for being married. It’s not my job to do. In fact, I pray that God will bless them and that they grow in His grace, love, and mercy. I pray they will find true peace and happiness and never again re turn to NTCC. I’m happy for them they married AND they didn’t get married at NTCC. Fortunately the families both said NO we want to see you get married not stand in some office. Another church welcomed them in to use their facility. They didn’t judge them. They welcomed them, the way a church should do.
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